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April 25, 2011
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Offlinepaul said:
It looks like a good gun for its purpose but I have a question, is that grip as short as it looks? It doesn't look like I could get more than two fingers on it.
i thought the same thing with the SW M&P .40 Compact but an extension magazine came with it and i can get my entire hand around the gun now. i'd hope this gun has the same option.
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OfflineFor someone that just completed their conceal to carry certification, this would make a great fit. I recently purchaesed the Smith & Wesson M&P .40 Compact for my personal carry choice but also had my eye on this 380. whether or not i would get picked to win, this gun will make it to the top of my list and on my "i own these guns" list in the near future. you all picked a great gun for this month's giveaway. strong choice!
2:43 pm
October 5, 2010
Onlinemillerk420 said:
imho, if it is what works for you.. 380 is enough i dont want to be shot by one
As I tell my students, a .380 can kill you, but it might take 10 minutes and a bad guy can still kill you in that 10 minutes. Take them down quickly and keep them down permanently. but, I do have a few and they have their place. And the best gun for SD is still whichever one you have when you need it, be it .22, .380 or that blasted BB gun.
7:06 pm
April 30, 2011
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Offlinecolorado hunter said:
sl-eye_noyes said:
@CH, I agree. you have said what i have thought. that its not the caliber its the shot. If you are nnot very good with a gun then bigger cal. will help stop a bg, but you should be well practiced in my opinion and heck a .22 well placed, could take someone down. you just have to be comfortable and confident with the weapon.
You said it better than I did – a hit with a .22 is better than a miss with a .45.
Yep, totally agree on what is being said. I ask myself what my failure limit is and can I run that gun at 100 mph. I don't own a 1911. I would love to have one but I just havent found the deal i want. I have shot them but I wasnt as accurate with the .45 as i have been with the 9mm I conceal carry. So I havent got one yet. I worry i'll buy one and then not like it. So like right now, 9mm is my limit and it is enough for me.
But yeah I also agree we are always wanting a bigger gun..
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April 8, 2011
Offlinecolorado hunter said:
I'm probably risking starting a fight by weighing in on this but take my comments as friendly debate. We're talking guns not religion.
The whole ".380 is not adequate for SD" misses the main point, in my opinion. John Browning apparently thought it was enough when he designed it for the Colt Model 1908 and the caliber was used in many other countries as a police weapon for a long time. IOW, a lot of people who knew what they were doing thought it was enough for a very long time and many still do.Somehow, we in the US have gotten the idea that certain calibers are just "not enough" but it seems to me that bullet placement is a lot more important than caliber, not to mention just having the gun with you when you need it and knowing how to use it. I get the "can't stop a meth-head with a small caliber" thing but I think we get a little carried away with some of the scenarios we construct in our heads, too. Also, while granting that the .380 is not as powerful as a 9mm, it follows that the 9mm is not as powerful as a .40 and a .40 is not as powerful as a .45, which is not as powerful as a .458 Lott, either. How big do we go until we get to ridiculous?
What I am really saying is that the gun that you can carry easily and comfortably and shoot well is going to be the best choice for SD outside the house. One well-placed round of good SD .380 is going to put a BG down very effectively if you put the bullet in the right place. If you can and want to carry a .45, so much the better, but a good shooter is going to get the job done regardless of the caliber.
To add to the above, I don't think there is a "best" gun for SD usage — not even (in most cases) a "best" gun for a given individual. There are many trade-offs to be made, and caliber is only one of them.
One can go crazy trying to over-optimize. Perhaps the Russian military philosophy of "the law of requisite variety" applies: the best situation is to have many different options available, so that, in a given situation (or, in this case, a given estimate of need), a good choice can be made.
It not even be the best choice. To quote another aphorism from the Soviet era: "better" is the enemy of "good enough".
11:26 am
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March 10, 2011
Offlinesl-eye_noyes said:
@CH, I agree. you have said what i have thought. that its not the caliber its the shot. If you are nnot very good with a gun then bigger cal. will help stop a bg, but you should be well practiced in my opinion and heck a .22 well placed, could take someone down. you just have to be comfortable and confident with the weapon.
You said it better than I did – a hit with a .22 is better than a miss with a .45.
11:24 am
April 30, 2011
Offline@CH, I agree. you have said what i have thought. that its not the caliber its the shot. If you are nnot very good with a gun then bigger cal. will help stop a bg, but you should be well practiced in my opinion and heck a .22 well placed, could take someone down. you just have to be comfortable and confident with the weapon.
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March 10, 2011
Offlinemillerk420 said:
imho, if it is what works for you.. 380 is enough i dont want to be shot by one
I'm probably risking starting a fight by weighing in on this but take my comments as friendly debate. We're talking guns not religion.
The whole ".380 is not adequate for SD" misses the main point, in my opinion. John Browning apparently thought it was enough when he designed it for the Colt Model 1908 and the caliber was used in many other countries as a police weapon for a long time. IOW, a lot of people who knew what they were doing thought it was enough for a very long time and many still do.
Somehow, we in the US have gotten the idea that certain calibers are just "not enough" but it seems to me that bullet placement is a lot more important than caliber, not to mention just having the gun with you when you need it and knowing how to use it. I get the "can't stop a meth-head with a small caliber" thing but I think we get a little carried away with some of the scenarios we construct in our heads, too. Also, while granting that the .380 is not as powerful as a 9mm, it follows that the 9mm is not as powerful as a .40 and a .40 is not as powerful as a .45, which is not as powerful as a .458 Lott, either. How big do we go until we get to ridiculous?
What I am really saying is that the gun that you can carry easily and comfortably and shoot well is going to be the best choice for SD outside the house. One well-placed round of good SD .380 is going to put a BG down very effectively if you put the bullet in the right place. If you can and want to carry a .45, so much the better, but a good shooter is going to get the job done regardless of the caliber.
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May 11, 2011
OfflineWent to a gun show yesterday, wo the bodyguard is small.. it still looks like something that would fit in my arsenal. My wife didnt like it, she opted for the Bersa two tone 380CC she liked the feel in her hand. We took it to the range last night after the show and she shot a great grouping at 10 feet. Other people there so we didnt get to put out another target and we wanted to get home to eat. Anyway, I didnt get any pics but I also shot my Garand. OMG.. by the power of greyskull.. geez.. one feed issue but otherwise it was a great experience.
12:02 am
April 30, 2011
Offlinejkgruet said:
PJ1 said:
Got one at Christmas time, feels and shoots very nice. Agree that it would be nice to get another mag, had to order one special, bout $25.
Was looking at the LCP or TCP at first but this one caught my eye with all the x-tra features the others didnt have for not much more $.
Very happy with the purchase and would reccomend to anyone.
Philip
Did a lot of research — and price was a definite factor — before settling on the Taurus TCP. Wasn't able to shoot any, but tried a whole bunch for grip, trigger, etc. Chose the Taurus primarily because it had a fantastic trigger pull (compared to the others), slide-lock-open feature, good price, and great warranty.
Have had to use the warranty once (I suspect a bad part problem in the trigger action), and was quite pleased. Of course, any mechanical malfunction produces a bit of uncertainty re the product. If it goes through the next few hundred rounds OK, then my confidence will build up.
My wife, who is somewhat recoil averse, quite enjoys shooting it. My pastor and his wife are looking at it as well.
Er, not that either of us'd turn down the S&P Bodyguard 380 should one of our names come up in the drawing . . . . (But . . . we're still waiting for the December AR-15!)
my wife checked this gun out at sw and I think she would be reallly happy if I won it cause then she could claim it!
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April 8, 2011
OfflinePJ1 said:
Got one at Christmas time, feels and shoots very nice. Agree that it would be nice to get another mag, had to order one special, bout $25.
Was looking at the LCP or TCP at first but this one caught my eye with all the x-tra features the others didnt have for not much more $.
Very happy with the purchase and would reccomend to anyone.
Philip
Did a lot of research — and price was a definite factor — before settling on the Taurus TCP. Wasn't able to shoot any, but tried a whole bunch for grip, trigger, etc. Chose the Taurus primarily because it had a fantastic trigger pull (compared to the others), slide-lock-open feature, good price, and great warranty.
Have had to use the warranty once (I suspect a bad part problem in the trigger action), and was quite pleased. Of course, any mechanical malfunction produces a bit of uncertainty re the product. If it goes through the next few hundred rounds OK, then my confidence will build up.
My wife, who is somewhat recoil averse, quite enjoys shooting it. My pastor and his wife are looking at it as well.
Er, not that either of us'd turn down the S&P Bodyguard 380 should one of our names come up in the drawing . . . . (But . . . we're still waiting for the December AR-15!) 
Editor said:
As with all of the micro pistols, those of us with large hands do have some modifying to do with our grip. However, the trigger was more of an issue than the grip on this gun. The fairly light recoil of the .380 round kept shooting this gun manageable, although with the light frame weight, it did recoil like a full 9mm instead of its shorter little brother. The shape and angle of the grip make it a natural pointer and the grip extension on the magazine made a spot for my pinkie and I have big old carpenters hands.
What, you guys don't want to see my bikini pics? My feelings are hurt.
Got one at Christmas time, feels and shoots very nice. Agree that it would be nice to get another mag, had to order one special, bout $25.
Was looking at the LCP or TCP at first but this one caught my eye with all the x-tra features the others didnt have for not much more $.
Very happy with the purchase and would reccomend to anyone.
Philip
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